Birther-Obsessed George Stephanopoulos Forces Michele Bachmann to Gaze at Obama's Certificate
Good Morning America's George Stephanopoulos on Wednesday continued to
obsess over the birther issue, foisting Barack Obama's certificate of
live birth onto guest Michele Bachmann. Holding up a copy, the co-host
lectured, "It's certified. It has got a certification number. It has got
the registrar of the state signed. It has got a seal on it."
After Bachmann replied that the document "settles" things, an anxious
Stephanopoulos followed-up, "So, it's over? This story is over." The
last time the Republican congresswoman appeared on GMA,
February 17, 2011,
the co-anchor insisted on similar declarations from Bachmann: "Can you
just state very clearly that President Obama is a Christian and he is a
citizen of the United States?"
GMA has repeatedly hyped and fixated on the birther issue.
Yet, the ABC program has not required that liberals denounce
9/11 truther conspiracies.
Stephanopoulos also raised another of his favorite topics: Lobbying Republicans
to support tax increases.
Citing an ABC poll suggesting Americans would be fine with raising
taxes on the wealthy, the host pushed, "Well, let's talk about the poll
numbers, just out this morning. That seems to be very strong support for
President Obama's position in this budget fight and a rebuke of the
House Republican position."
Told by Bachmann that a 100 percent tax on those making over $250,000
would only fund the government for six months, Stephanopoulos retorted,
"But every bit helps, doesn't it?"
A transcript of the April 20 segment, which aired at 7:11am EDT, follows:
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: We're going to turn now to
our latest ABC News/Washington Post poll detailing how all of you
believe America should deal with the debt crisis. And there's some
bright lines. 72 percent Of Americans support raising taxes on
households with income over $250,000 a year. And nearly 80 percent
oppose cuts in Medicare spending. And now, to get some perspective on
this and more, I want to welcome Michele Bachmann into the studio. She's
a founding member of the Tea Party caucus in the House and is right now
actively looking at running for President in 2012. Good morning. In
fact, you're just back from New Hampshire. How did it go?
MICHELE BACHMANN: I am. Good morning. Good to see you. It went great. It was so much fun. Beautiful up there.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, let's talk about the poll numbers, just out this
morning. That seems to be very strong support for President Obama's
position in this budget fight and a rebuke of the House Republican
position.
BACHMANN: I think if you look at those numbers, that would be accurate.
But I don't think that totally reflects where the American people are
coming from. First of all, if we tax 100 percent of what everyone made
who make $250,000 or more, that would that- everything they made- that
would get us about six months'-
STEPHANOPOULOS: But every bit helps, doesn't it?
BACHMANN: Well, but it wouldn't be enough. I think that's what's
shocking. We could take 100 percent of the profits of every Fortune 500
company and that would give us 40 days worth of revenue. We could also
take 100 percent of everything that the billionaires in this country own
and that wouldn't be enough to solve the problem. So, it's really a
matter of having everyone involved. Part of the problem, George, is 47
percent of all Americans pay virtually no federal income tax. We need to
broaden the base.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But, you say that everyone needs to be involved. And I
think that's reflected also in those numbers. A lot of Americans look at
those numbers and say it's wrong for seniors who rely on Medicare to
get cuts when wealthy people get tax cuts extended.
BACHMANN: Well, and I think again that's- President Obama was the one
who was behind the tax cut extension bill in December. That was his
position. And I would agree with senior citizens. We're very concerned.
And I think that's why a better name maybe for the Paul Ryan budget
would be the 55 and Under plan. Because no one 55 years of age or older
will see any change whatsoever to Medicare. That's an extremely crucial
piece of information. So, we don't want any senior citizen to feel- or
near-senior citizen- I'm 55 years old. And, so, it wouldn't apply to me,
either. There are no changes to people who are 55 years of age or
older.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But as the Congressional Budget Office has said that
everybody else would have their premiums go up in the future. I do want
to get on to a few other subjects Donald Trump was on this program
yesterday. He seems to be at the center of the Republican debate right
now. He is at eight percent in our latest poll. You're down at one
percent. Karl Rove and other Republicans call him a joke.
BACHMANN: That means we have room to grow. [Laughs]
STEPHANOPOULOS: You've got room to grow. Sarah Palin had praise for him. Do you take his candidacy seriously?
BACHMANN: I think it's up to Donald Trump if he takes his candidacy
seriously. Certainly, he has a good foothold with a lot of people in the
United States. I think they're intrigued by him and what he has to say.
STEPHANOPOULOS: He continues to raise these questions about the
President's birth status. And last night, you were on Fox News
suggesting that the President should come forward with his birth
certificate as well.
BACHMANN: Well, what I've said about that. I was asked the question
about that. And Republicans are constantly asked to vouch for the
authenticity of the birth certificate. The only one who can is the clerk
of court in the county where someone is born. And that's where people
should go. Don't ask Republicans. Go ask the clerk of court.
STEPHANOPOULOS: No, no. One of your supporters, actually, in the state
of Iowa has put forward a bill that would require presidential
candidates to file their birth certificate with their candidacy. Do you
support that?
BACHMANN: Well, Governor Jan Brewer just vetoed that bill in Arizona.
Because she felt it was a bridge too far. It wouldn't be up to the
authenticators in each state to do that. That would be a federal issue.
There's a federal piece of legislation that hasn't gone anywhere that
would require candidates put forward their birth certificate. I have no
problem giving my birth certificate. It wouldn't bother me at all. I've
got one. It's authenticated. Take it.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, but so does the President. According to the bill,
"a candidate for president or vice president candidate shall attach to
and file an affidavit a copy of the candidate's birth certificate
certified by the appropriate official in the candidate's state of birth.
BACHMANN: That's right.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, I have the President's certificate right here.
[Holds up Obama's certificate of live birth.] It's certified. It has
got a certification number. It has got the registrar of the state
signed. It has got a seal on it. And says "this copy serves as prima
facie evidence in any court proceedings."
BACHMANN: Well, then that's what should settle it. That-
STEPHANOPOULOS: So, it's over?
BACHMANN: That's what should settle it. I take the President at his
word and I think for- again- I would have no problem and apparently the
President wouldn't either. Introduce that. We're done. Move on.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, this has been introduced. So, this case- This story is over.
BACHMANN: Well, as long as someone introduces it, I guess it's over.
STEPHANOPOULOS: It's right there.
BACHMANN: Yep. There you go.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Okay.
BACHMANN: Because that is not the main issue facing the United States
right now. The main issue facing the United States is dealing with our
debt and deficit.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So, you've been to Iowa. You've been to New Hampshire. You've been to South Carolina.
BACHMANN: South Carolina.
STEPHANOPOULOS: I was going to say. You beat me to it. You say you're
going to make a decision by June. What is your decision on whether to
run going to hinge on?
BACHMANN: Well, both my husband and I as a family, and the whole team
putting this together, we have to be assured that there's a path to
victory. And we have to feel this is the right thing to do at the right
time. It isn't just me that's impacted. It's our family. It's the
children. It's a lot of moving parts. You've been involved in these
endeavors. It's not a small endeavor. I've never done anything rashly.
I've started a business. I've been a tax lawyer. We've raised 23 foster
kids, 5 kids. So, you have to figure a pathway to success. That's what
we're doing right now. And once we feel confident we have the building
blocks in place.
STEPHANOPOULOS: What's the biggest hurdle?
BACHMANN: Well, making sure, again, like a good foundation on any
business you build, you want to make sure that you're not going to put
all that capital and lose the capital. We started a successful business.
That's what we're trying to do. Make sure we have all the elements
needed. I did raise more money than any other candidate in the first
quarter.
STEPHANOPOULOS: I Saw that.
BACHMANN: That's a very important piece. A person has to raise money to be successful. And we met that hurdle.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, come back when you're ready to make the decision.
BACHMANN: Okay.
— Scott Whitlock is the senior news analyst for the Media Research Center. Click here to follow him on Twitter.